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May 7, 2001
Fouls most foul.
Fireplug

Peja was visibly frustrated all game because the great "D" that Fox was playing consisted of Fox holding Peja's arms all freaking game with nary a call. How that greasy haired cheater (last tme I looked in the rules, you still can't hold your man for 48 minutes) ever became the defensive darling of the refs I will never know.

Also, some Laker fans argue that Shaq gets fouled  as much as he fouls others.  If that is the case then lets just call a foul a foul both times.  From now on Shaq will get called for an offensive foul every time he clears out with his elbows, and Shaq can have all the and-1's he deserves for being hacked too. I reckon he will be in foul trouble about 4
Rick, we can sure see you are correct when you say those coaches just have it in for you.  You are clearly not touching anyone when you play defense on the perimeter.  I don't know WHAT Adelman was thinking.
(AP Photo/Kim D. Johnson via Sportsline,com)
minutes into the first quarter then we won't have to worry about those and-1's anymore because his rear will be on the bench.

Now, that argument sounds kinda silly when you look at it that way, huh Laker fans?

I do have to give Shaq and Phil credit for seeing that the refs were going to basically let Shaq do whatever he wanted this game and then tailoring their game plan to take advantage of it. I've often wondered why the Lakers don't go to Shaq 100% of the time when he is getting to have his way like he did today.

This may sound like simple ref bashing by a Kings fan, but when the announcers of the game, who clearly favor the Lakers, plus the media in the city of Los Angeles itself, no less, are saying that Shaq is getting away with rape and mayhem down low  one must wonder if any other team will be given a chance to derail the "Laker Dynasty" that the league clearly thinks it needs to make the most money financially. Maybe they already have the "Dynasty" videos all made to sell to those millions of rich Laker fans in the LA area.





Today's Game

Paesans

I'm not going to complain about the officiating in today's game because it is obvious to anyone watching the game that Shaq gets to play to a different set of rules than anyone else. If that is what David Stern and the NBA wants, then the NBA and David Stern will reap what they sow. It may not happen this year or even next, but eventually the popularity of the NBA will dwindle if this sort of biased officiating is allowed to continue. I think the Kings can still beat the Lakers even with this huge disadvantage. Phil's defensive schemes are always defeated by quick penetrating guards. Even in Chicago, this was true. JWill, Peja, and yes Hedo could be the difference in this series. Time to steal game 2 on Tuesday.

Is Jeri-Curl Fox going to be allowed to basically hang all over Peja and foul him every time he touches the ball for the rest of this series? I hope Rick Adelman goes on the offensive with this, because you know that Phil Jackson would be screaming bloody murder to the league if Peja were on his team and SleazeBall was guarding him that way.

I heard an interview of Stern recently about the state of the league, and he seems in denial about the whole thing. Maybe it's time for fresh blood in the commisioner's office. David Stern had the benefit of an MJ league for many years and benefitted by the popularity of one of the most amazing athletes of this century. Stern has done very little himself to improve the league. He is really more of a parasite to the league. Time for fresh blood. Bring in a real commisioner that will allow the sport to be played as a SPORT rather than an solely as an entertainment/TV venue.




Reno Lady

Yes, people do want the game to be more of a sport - a little excitement and entertainment if you please NBA. That's why the Kings are so popular, because they give the game some personality. It isn't always a dribble the ball, at a slow crawl, up the court, pass to the biggest guy on your team who's always in the middle of the lane and let him bowl everyone out of the way while he makes a basket. The Kings are pushing the tempo, running, passing, and doing some interesting things with the ball. How exciting was it to see Jason Williams going right at Shaq the last few seconds of the game? (BTW-I thought this was a good play, Jason just should have gotten in a little closer & he would have either had the basket & a foul or a foul with 2 attempts at the line). Talk about David & Goliath! Anyway, other teams are learning they can play the way the Kings do and still win games but have more fun doing it; I look for even more teams to turn to the Kings style of play next season.

Speaking of pushing the tempo: Why didn't Adelman tell Jason to do that in the 4th quarter? Even if it meant taking the big guys out (except Pollard, who can keep up) I think it would have made a difference. The Kings, players & coaches, need to encourage Jason to go to the hoop more as once again he blew right by everyone.

Obviously Bobby Jackson isn't 100% yet. I hope he gets more treatment and feels better by Tuesday.

Shaq didn't like Jim Gray's question about the game being so close did he? I thought it was a valid question-why be afraid to answer it?

I'm looking forward to Peja's response on Tuesday. This kid is such a competitor and hates it when he feels like he's let his team down; I really expect him to be on fire Tuesday night. I'm glad it's a night game as well because the Kings still play better at night than they do in day games, although they're getting better at that too. They've made such an incredible leap this season; they've accomplished so many things, broken so many streaks. A few more made free throws today by the Kings and the scores would have been reversed in this game and I think the Lakers know it.



Bawsor

Obviously I thought the officiating was one-sided. But we just have to accept the calls and move on. What I found troubling was Vlade's reaction to the calls or non-calls. I thought his reaction was poor and it subsequently affected his plays and decision making. In addition, his reputation and his tendency to "flap" might have hurt his credibility with the officials. On the other hand, I thought Pollard handled himself well. He accepted the calls and moved on.

We should not foul Shaq when it is obvious he will dunk the ball. How many times have we seen opponents stupidly picking up a cheap foul and giving Shaq a freebie foul shot. Instead, Chris, Vlade and Scott should preserve their fouls to use in the fourth quarter.

Overall I thougth we lost because the Lakers played a smarter and more controlled game. Having said this, I still like our chances. We just have to stay focused, play smarter and make better decision down the stretch. Ignore the referees and just play hard. Unlike the glamorous Lakers, nothing comes easy for us. We just have to roll up our sleeves, put on the hard-hat, and just work harder.



Kingme

Look we all agree that more help is needed to stop shaq. Cwebb comes over to help occassionally, but he can't pick up a lot of fouls and still be effective himself. that means Pollard,Vlade and even Hedo need to try and deny him the ball or push him out away from the basket. Not an easy task when the man is almost an immovable object. but that's why I'm so angry about Vlade not bringing it. He's our center for crying out loud! that's his job to guard shaq. I hear all these callers and radio hosts say, presumably with a straight face, that Vlade has to come out and hit the 18ft. Jumper to be effective and draw Shaq away from the basket. These theories sound good but when vlade's bricking shots - easy ones - it messes up a big part of the King's inside strategy. I mean, if you were PJ, and being an astute judge of human behavior and having watched Vlade's performances recently, would you tell shaq to go out to guard Vlade? No Way! In fact even in the games we've won against the lakers, Shaq never fell for that. I just don't know why Shaq gets to play by a diferent set of rules. Being biger than everyone else shouldn't matter. People still call other players for loose ball fouls even though they may have longer arms than other players. And thankfully i missed Walton's color work cause I turned the sound down at tipoff and listened to KHTK!



Jeremydb26

Unfortunately, I was only able to watch the first half of the game today. I thought the Kings played well and was just hoping it would be close at halftime. To my disappointment, they had the lead at halftime and all the Kings fans know what that means. Nice game by Webber and Pollard. One thing that I liked about the game was that the Kings showed their willingness to play physical as well.

As I told a friend of mine on Thursday, the league will not let Shaq foul out of a game. I will admit the refs gave the Kings a few as well with Webber's posts down low. However, Shaq hitting Vlade in the face with his arm is a foul. Another thing that has always bothered me. Once a player has position (Pollard, Vlade, Sabonis), Shaq should not be allowed to use his body to knock him out of that position. A defensive player has a right to establish himself and if the offensive player knocks him off of that it is a foul. Shaq should not be allowed to go through anyone he wants while the refs just consider that just Shaq establishing position. That type of non call is what upsets me most.

Kings still have a chance in the series. I love the way Hedo played, the way the Kings played physically, and the aggressiveness with which they played. Get Peja on track, hit FTs, have Jwill penetrate, and use the bench effectively and this will be a great series.







Webber
Bonsy

I think it's time for the Webber bashers to acknowledge he played a great game today.

Unfortunately, Peja was harrassed and looked harrassed all game but I expect him to be mad on Tuesday and come out strong.

Hedo was very impressive. So was Pollard. Jason did very well. Christie was terrific. Actually, we played a darn good game.

The big factor in this game was Shaq and his ability to go where he wanted and do what he wanted.

Aaah, Joe Crawford. How did I know? Now, on Tuesday, it will be our luck to have the other Crawford.

Still, I was impressed that we didn't let the refs get in our heads and only lost by 3 points. I figured we'd lose this first game because it's Sunday. We rarely win on Sunday. All along I figured we had a better chance to win on Tuesday. The only thing I really wanted to see was us play with them and make it a game. And they did.

Remember, Shaq never has 2 big games in a row. I look for Vlade and Pollard to be more of a factor on him Tuesday.

Interesting little stat:

Regular season

Game 1 Officials: Dan Crawford, Dee Kantner, Sean Corbin. Kings lose.

Game 2 Officials: Dan Crawford, Greg Willard, Jason Phillips. Kings lose.

Game 3 Officials: Joe Crawford, Jim Clark, Mike Smith. Kings lose.

Game 4 Officials: Luis Grillo, Don Vaden, Rodney Mott. Kings WIN!

Yep, just a funny coincidence.

Just one thought on Fox's comment that Adelman must be Dunleavy's brother... no, actually. In this case I'd say Adelman is Jackson's brother.

Remember last year, all the whining and moaning Jackson did after we beat them twice. Suddenly Webber was playing illegal defense. Boo hoo....

I watched the tape of that game afterwards and saw Webber illegal MAYBE twice in the whole game.

But Jackson's complaining worked. We all remember how Joe Crawford made sure he called the Kings for illegal defense, not once, not twice, but wasn't it three times in the first quarter of the very next game? Final game 5?

The best coach at whining and complaining about refs is Fox's own coach.





Refs protecting Lakers
ken

Shaq was bumping Kings under the basket.
Fox was hugging Peja all game lone.

No call. The Lakers can do whatever they want -- no foul on them, and the they won by a close margin.

That's exactly what favorism is all about, people. I've repeatedly and furiously talked about how the league/refs will bail the Lakers out and nobody ever believed me. I was once convinced that I was wrong, the Lakers aren't favored, and the league/refs won't alter the outcome.

But today, the reality reveals.
THe Kings failed to blow out and Lakers. Close game, refs spoiled Shaq. All those celebrities at Staples cheered.(You recall how many famous faces NBC showed today? That was only part of everybody.) Kobe's and Shaq's commercials continue to roll in our TV.

You can say I am stubborn. You can say it is a loser's attitude. But I've predicted this before, and I still hold firm about the conspiracy.

It is only 1 game, but do you guys still believe the league/refs will allow the Kings to win this series?

This is a freaking 3-points game, ok? Had the refs called the game more fairly, those "mistakes" wouldn't even have happened.

Had the refs called the fouls on Shaq and Fox when they committed the fouls, they would have to sit on the bench and all those "Lakers boards, 2nd chance pts' would not have been so overwhelming and there would have been no need to double up Shaq, Peja would have gotten more open looks, and the 3 point difference can easily go the other way.

Yeah, getting the opponents into foul troubles is a key strategy in basketball but only works if the refs are fair.

Yes I am a die-hard Kings fan and I will continue to be one.

But do you know how much I hope that I am wrong about the conspiracy? How much I want to see some evident that there is no favorism in the league? But from all obervations, facts, reasonings, I just can't play naive. We, or at least I, have to deal with the reality.

And this is what I believe but I sincerely hope I am wrong: the Sacramento Kings will never win the champ (fruitless). Not because they aren't able to, not because they aren't good enough, but because 1)they don't have a supterstar with a ton of commercials, 2)the richest people/celebrities aren't Kings fans, and 3)the NBA doesn't make the most profit from the Kings market.

(I know the Kings merchandise are selling good these days, but I ensure you that can never top Lakers merchandise, WORLDWIDE.)

Sorry Kings fans, I know I am bitter. But please!!!! Please prove me wrong!

I am not saying anything against the Lakers. I am just saying the LEAGUE is unfair at certian degree and do all things based on $ and profits.

"It is a business" says it all.







A Laker Fan's View
Laker Prophet

No quality team with talent (like any team with more than 50 wins this season, like the Kings) is going to lose all the time on close calls.

Kings lost in the end (on paper at least) because:

a)they gambled and lost on not doubling Shaq properly. Lots of teams have done this in a game 1. Expect things to change for game 2. Adelman is not going to gamble twice that he can survive a 44 pt 21 rebound assault like that.

b) turnovers and turnover points. The two teams were equally sloppy, but the Kings gave up 8 more points this way.

c) not contolling the glass. It is one thing to be outrebounded, another when most of the difference is on the offensive glass.

d) they did nothing to use their advantage from three point range. Going 4 or 11 is not going to cut it when you need points, and you need to push the pace along ahead of the Lakers.

In theory, had the Lakers been just as rusty from a week off, and the Kings not made these mistakes or made the correct adjustments, the game could easily have gone the other way. Instead, both teams have game one behind them, and they have to use what they know for game two.

I think Adelman takes the right tack though in trying to single out Fox. The conspiracy guys at the league office may be more willing to let him foul out of a game.






Typical
Cat Man

Still say officiating comes out in the wash, although Shaquille O'Neal clearly gets a wider berth than most players. Even if they call those two obvious non-calls in the first half, it doesn't change the outcome. Maybe it keeps Vlade Divac off the bench, but who's to say?

More important was the Kings' lack of movement on offense. Peja Stojakovic should have been coming off two screens to catch and shoot, and that Jason Williams missed some opportunities to kick out on his drives into the lane. And L.A. got back to prevent the transition game pretty well.

This one's going seven, so there's no need to panic.

So how do we play Shaq and win?

The Kings must get better movement on offense in Game 2: Peja Stojakovic coming off two or three screens to catch and shoot; Jason Williams penetrating, then kicking to an open man if the Lakers collapse on him; cutting without the ball to the basket and into passing lanes to disrupt the Lakers defense and create opportunities elsewhere.

And they've got to make the close shots so Shaquille O'Neal doesn't have rebound opportunities. On defense, they were able to get Shaq away from the basket when he shot but couldn't keep him there, and he abused them with put-backs. If they can limit his second chances -- a big if -- the transition game should open up. The Lakers can't run with the Kings.





Hido + Pedja
parso

I think this line up should be given a chance because its in my view our best defensive lineup because its substitutes a 6 footer with a 6-9 one. Interesting enough when Hido was on Kobe, Kobe did not attack him other than forcing a fadeaway over the long arms of Hido... maybe it was just because Shaq was just going balistic downlow... Laker Prophet Hido can easily handle Fisher on the defensive end and he would post the something out of him... hell he can post of probably any Laker guard since Kobe's post up defense is weak... but lets get not over board the Kings would not want to rely on Hido downlow and he would probably not get the ball after one missed shot... I really wish Adelman would be more of a risk taker though. I mean even if we are outplayed big time he does not react with any substitutions. I think a little change at times might change the games and the other 4 Kings players game too... just my take





It's All Good
Elbow Pass

There are many positives to take from today's game. It's been 5 hours since the final buzzer, deep breath, Kings fans need not to panic or worry that there is a conspiracy against us. Remember last year, we got walked on in three games in LA. I like our chances, I hope on Tuesday we get a little more ball movement, set some picks for Peja, use the double team more on Shaq. I think the key to taking a game in LA is our defense. Limit LA on the second chance opportunities, grab loose balls, and not complain about calls. It would be one thing if the Kings didn't show up today, but they did, they played hard and almost won on the road. Hedo and Pollard played good off the bench, Jwill got the minutes and played decent, Webber took the ball the the hoop more often than settling for the outside jumper, Christie played solid on defense and Peja just didn't get the looks due to aggressive defense by Fox ( not saying it was legal defense just aggressive). I'm upset, but I'm not angry, we definitely have some things to work on and I'm looking forward to Tuesday. We're prepared,. the opportunity is there and with a little luck hopefully we can get the split.

GO KINGS

p.s. I almost forgot, how can someone send a complaint to NBC. Unfortunately I was not in a position to mute the tube and listen to 1140, so I had to tolerate Walton the whole game. Games are so much more enjoyable on the local channel.






Tough Game, But...
Critic

Once again, the Kings lost a close first game. This time tho, they were playing away from home. I wouldn't get too down about that loss. They played hard but just lost, despite a poor shooting game by Peja. While I'm usually a ref-apologist, this time I agree with the ref-bashing. I thought they were very bad and while the errors may have evened out in numbers, almost all of the blatent errors I saw that went LA's way tended to keep Shaq in the game. Without Shaq, LA would get blown out. With him, especially when treated as 007, well, they're really hard to beat. It gets to be Mission Impossible for Vlade and Pollard when it's called that way. Shaq has enough great moves w/o letting him also get by with simply smashing all in his path. I thought Fox was just playing good D for the most part, but Shaq seems to be playing an entirely different game. With all that? Just a 3 point loss on the road. They are much more competitive with the Lakers this year than last.

I had to keep turning the sound off. Walton was a buffoon today and his mouth was in gear constantly. He has zero credibility as an analyst and should be put out to pasture or back in the studio for halftimes.








































 

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