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May 9, 2001
Mental Game
celter07

I believe the Kings haven't quite mastered the mental aspect of playing in the playoffs or in big games or crunch time or under pressure or whatever it is. PJ does that well and the veterans on the Lakers bring a ton of confidence. When the Kings get this together, if they do, they will be a contender. Until they do, they are not going anywhere, IMO. Not sure if it is just experience, coaching, Pt guard,
big men or what, they are missing something and losing their consistency. They are an alcoholic thinking type team, all or nothing! Thats only 2, it takes 4.Go Kings!!






I'm Disgusted

cQ

I'm disgusted.
I was born in L.A., and if Kareem got the calls that Shaq gets he would have scored twice as much as he did then.
Chris Webber plays like Ginger of Gilligan's Island on defense in the paint. If he had any balls the Kings would have won the first game and would be winning this one.
Also L.A. fans are NOT the Lakers and have zero to do with the success of the team, yet somehow imagine that their own self worth is enhanced by what the team does. Ridiculous. When I was a Laker fan, Kareem and Magic won those titles, not me.
Doug and Hedo make me smile. They leave it all out there. And if Hedo was allowed to, he could do even more than he does.
The series is not over, but I am tired of watching the Kings throw away games they can win. The Lakers are just not as good as the Kings are making them look right now.
The factor that is often overlooked that has turned the Lakers around at the end of this season is Derek Fisher (who I like a lot) coming back. I am happy for him, but am disgusted that the Lakers benefit from it.
All that said, if the officials would call 3 second violations and Shaq's shoulder/elbow battering-ram technique, and Chris would box out and play like a wolverine in the paint, the Lakers fans would be avoiding this forum; and, if the Kings WAKE UP, the Kings can still win. I hope they do.
Disgusted. Webber hurt the Kings with his avoidance of contact in the paint. Disgusted. The Kings made the Lakers look better than they actually are. But hopeful. The Kings can sweep the next four games, by just playing 100% and refusing to lose. Wilt was a much more dominant player than is Shaq and the Celtics managed to win championships regardless how dominant Wilt was (except when Wilt played with Jerry West). Again, the Kings can still win this series, and should. If they don't, it will be their own fault; because they have the weapons to embarrass the Lakers and go all the way. Will they? It is up to them.

Kings win series 4-2. 

I am not impressed with the Lakers game right now, and neither should the Kings be. That is how displeased I am with the Kings game the last two games. It is almost as though they are finding ways to lose instead of win.

Just win, baby! I know the Kings CAN do it. But do they? If they do, and play like they can, they will get to play the Spurs next. If not, well...it won't be my fault. 

I see the Kings winning. I do.

Go Kings!



Reno Lady

You shouldn't be disgusted; frustrated perhaps but not disgusted. Disgusted is for when your team doesn't put out any effort - and the Kings put out great effort tonight but I swear they've all become myopic overnight! I can't believe the number of open shots they missed. It was like the basket had been moved back or higher or both since they played Sunday! If they had made even a few more shots they would have won this game just like if they had hit a few more free throws Sunday they would have won that one. Once again Shaq and Kobe had around 70 points between them and still the Lakers won by less than 10 points - if that doesn't tell both teams something they all need to be slapped. I really think the Lakers thought they had this game in the bag when they were up by 15; even saw Shaq get that smirk on his face a couple of times -but the Kings came back again. This was a 4 point game & the Kings played worse than they did on Sunday! I notice that the Zen Disaster kept Shaq & Kobe both in the game for a lot of minutes too-another sign that the Lakers weren't comfortable about the outcome of this game.



The Real JC

Pretty ugly game all around for the Kings. Sure would be nice to have a starting center that has any resemblance of a pair of nuts. To be honest I am not going to miss C-Webb that much when he leaves, yes he has made the Kings better as a team over the past three years, that I am grateful for. But he has only proven that he is not the person to lead a team to a championship. I definitely won't miss his jumper, how many did he miss tonight, I lost count. Did they actually practice doubling Shaq? Because it wasn't evident tonight. Pretty pathetic effort by the team overall.




Fireplug

Wish I would have been wrong about the outcome. The LA O'Neals were just too much for our whole team tonight. See, we were right when we said Shaq doesn't need all the special treatment to play well, so why give it to him. Tonight I saw a couple iffy plays, but nothing out of the ordinary. Lakers won fair and square, with boring but effective play. Onward.




Laker Prophet

These things always go half-full half-empty. Whether or not the Lakers played well, the Kings have to take responsibility for shooting so poorly. It isn't the Laker's responsibility to put the ball in the net for them to "prove" that they are not playing well enough.

In a year's time people will look at the line score and they'll see that the Lakers healthily outrebounded the Kings, that Shaq scored more than the top two Kings, that Kobe scored more than the next two Kings, and that if such a thing as that happens, it's a good bet the Lakers were the better team on the night. And neither team has yet to bring its A game.

Shaq is the only player to play like he is ready for a championship ring fitting, and Kobe is cooperating by playing a flawless support.

Tell us if BoJax and Hedo have any sway in the locker room because they are the one's who played A games tonight. It is just they are not Shaq, and so you can't expect 43 and 20 from them.

Keep your hopes up. No A games from any team yet, so anything can happen.




Vlade Divac is laughing all the way to the bank...
Kingme

And collecting the Maloofs money! Geez,Vlade, at least pretend like you care. Vlade should retire from the NBA.He plqays like a 60 yr. old man most of the time. You can't just keep a guy around because he's amentor for Peja! Peja has his family here with him he doesn't need a 10 mil a yr. babysitter! You can almost see him thinking ot himself as he sits on the bench,"I hope this season ends soon because I have all of these humanitarian commitments to fulfill,my Group 7 basketball camp,visiting my native land, helping children,important stuff.This is silly.The last thing i want to do is keep playing ball against Shaq." Well, you know what Vlade, the only reason you're even in the position to help others is because of this silly little game which has made you a millionaire. He'll probably have okay games at Arco - this is the same exact repeat of last season.He sucked down in L.A. and was great at Arco. TELL ME KINGS FANS WHERE IS THE IMPROVMENT FROM LAST YEAR? Because they lost by less points? give me a break!






Shaq
Critic (Who is Not a Kings fan) :-)

Trying to say Shaq doesn't get hammered a lot and the opponents not get called for it is a waste of time. But, those uncalled fouls would get the other team's mere mortals in foul trouble, while the uncalled ones on Shaq allow LA to remain a good team instead of a really weak one, which is what they are with Shaq on the bench. If the refs won't let Shaq get into foul trouble that would force him to the bench, then he is officially 007 -- with a license to kill. It doesn't matter that CWebb could get away with them too -- his game isn't a power game -- he CAN'T knock people down with a casual shoulder bump. If Shaq is allowed to create shooting space by bull rushes where he stomps his man as he takes it to the rim, or by clearing out with his off-arm, or by lowering a shoulder, or by bumping his man into the third row of the parking lot and then going up for a shot, well, he can't be stopped.

I think NBA refs are protecting stars from fouling out so that a big advertiser such as Pepsi, who pays millions to the NBA for games and millions to Shaq to sell soda, won't bitch that they are losing part of what they paid for -- tv face time for their product's primary spokesman. IMO, that's a big mistake and it cheapens the game. It's one thing to call close fouls on stars to avoid having them get hurt by thugs, it's another to just let them beat the crap out of people. With Shaq, they've crossed that line. How would you like to be Pollard or Divac and know that no matter how hard Shaq beats on you it will be you and not he who is called for a foul? That would have to make it tough to get motivated to go to war with Shaq. Somewhere, somehow, some team management (Cuban, Nellie and the Mavs?) will have to just pull their team off the floor and forfeit a game and refuse to play against Shaq until he is held to the same rules as others. It would end up in court, of course, but that could get interesting when the evidence was video tape of every play involving Shaq, with side-by-side videos showing the calls in identical sequences involving others (perhaps Jahidi White, who is called for offensive fouls time after time for trying to do all the same stuff that Shaq does).

If they won't let media-draw stars foul out, then no one should foul out -- let a guy stay in forever, but 7th and subsequent fouls would all be one-shot-plus-possession fouls, and perhaps coach's choice as to shooter should kick in after say 8 fouls and 2-shots-plus-possession after say 9 or 10 fouls, three shots and possession thereafter. If Shaq could stay on the court, maybe the refs would call his fouls.
The way it is right now isn't working. I REALLY don't think there's any team-based conspiracy or even anything informal along those lines. But, there obviously IS a double standard being applied to Shaq and it's beginning to make it tough for me to watch Laker games (regardless of their opponent). In the long run, it's going to kill the credibility of the game.
























 

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